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I knew it. The Kinslaying of Alqualondë and the suffering of exilic Noldor are inside jobs. The Valar and their little game of chess. ''Where was Eru when the world burns?''

"... how wise Gandalf [Tolkien] was to align the free peoples against Sauron through their own different objectives." YES!

Saruman was always jealous of Gandalf being given the 3rd elven ring do he made his own ring and even told Gandalf and called himself “Ring Maker”

King Eomer "Galadriel is not the most beautiful." Gimili *walks calmly to grab his axe* King Eomer "It is Arwen!" Gimli *lays his axe down*

nice video thanks. so the question should be "what was eru doing all along?"

I enjoyed the addition of the elves in Helms Deep, it gives them a bit more presence in the conflict besides hanging around in their kingdoms, I also enjoyed the feeling of the children of Eru standing together against evil one last time.

disagree weakness corrupts. 11:28

Soooo he isn’t evil is what i am hearing?

Destruction then remake it from the ground up perhaps.as we are never told what might come after that. 3:25

The Nine seem to have many weaknesses and few strengths! By the way, it’s not clear whether Eowyn or Merry killed the witch-king. The book does not specify. Better to say that they did it together.

Imagine being Cirdan. Living there on the shore YEARNING for the West- but having been instucted by the Valar to stay in Middle Earth to build ships so others could sail west. For thousands and thousands of years! Poor Cirdan!

The dark people are the ones who enforce and praise their inefficiency and uselessness. the lack of anything at all does come from waste and the excuses of religion, flaws, and the shadows humans cast is the shade of their folly.

My only issue with the elves being present is that they just disappear. What happened to them? Jackson didn’t think that through because it goes against what Tolkien wrote. Yeah, it was cool when they showed up, but they just disappear after it shows a few get killed

Can a ring of power even *be* taken forcefully? Like has it ever happened apart from Isildor and The One Ring? The rings are "invisible" to anyone but ring bearers right? Is that just the elven ones or all of them apart from Saurons ring? Cause the "invisiblity" of the rings when worn. May be more intangible than described. Maybe they dont reside in the physical world when worn? much like the ring-wraiths or someone wearing The One Ring. Maybe the rings, when worn act like an inversion of how The one ring works? Instead of transporting the user's physical form to the wraith world. Maybe its the rings physical form that goes? Would also explain why ring bearers can see it. The Nazgul are ring bearers, as was Sauron, Frodo, Gandalf & Gladrial, Golum. All people who've seen both worlds. And several of them can see frodo even when wearing the one ring. Golum is also the only being i think we see remove someone elses ring while its worn. He grabbed Frodo while he was invisible and bit off his finger. It had been decades since Golum wore the ring, so maybe his connection was weaker. But he could still sense frodo's location.

Not even close

The elves being immortal, Valanor was the only place that kept the elves from going crazy or committing suicide from living too long. My own theory.

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Well she isn't the silly little girl who was actualy married with a child when rings of power came out. i fucking hate that show.

So they didn't shoot laser?

I encourage you all to read "Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth", a short story in MORGOTH'S RING. Its a story about Galadriel's brother Finrod visiting an aging human woman who was in love with their brother Aegnor, and their conversation about the gulf that exists between the fate of their two unique races. It gets deep into the foundations of Tolkiens belief in the sanctity of sentient souls as gifted by God, and references the theory of Morgoth corrupting Elves into Orcs. In the Athrabeth, in the conversation between Finrod and Andreth, Finrod articulated the Elves' belief that it cannot be true that Morgoth has enough power to change the entire nature of a sentient, soulful being against the will of God. That it is simply impossible for him to take Elves, beings with souls and fates, and do something to them with such power that he alters them, body and soul, into something against the designs of God himself. That he has the power to alter the birthright of their offspring, change the cosmic fate of an entire race.. it simply is impossible, and FAR beyond Morgoths power. Andreth expresses the human belief that humans were corrupted by Morgoth early, and that mortality and death were the resulting punishment handed down to us by Iluvatar, not the "Gift" that it was meant to be. Finrod is shocked by this belief, and tells her "If it was so, as she said, that he changed the fate of an entire people against the design of Eru, then all their strife against him was folly and even the Mountains of the Pélori were built on sand". It is easy to parallel this mistaken belief about the changing of Mens nature and fate to the belief of the changing of Orcs' nature and fate. Men and Elves have souls, and the fate of each of their souls, and their purpose in the world, is established by Iluvatar and CANNOT be altered, even by the Valar. This concept was definitively demonstrated by their handling of Earendil, the Half-Elven, the effects of unnatural life on Gollum, the Nazgul, the Army of the Dead, Numenor, etc. These beings, Elves and Men, have souls that have fates designated by Iluvatar himself and cannot be changed. And, regarding the case of Gwindor of Nargothrond - he was captured and held in Angband for 17yrs. He came out changed, uncharacteristically aged in appearance, brutalized and traumatized, but still an Elf. Nothing more than a greatly marred and damaged Elf, but still only just an Elf. In the conversation, Finrod basically acknowledges the theory about twisted Elves/orcs, but that he and the Eldar believe its BS. Kind of an in-universe debunking of the theory

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We need movies to be made on the entire lore, but LOTR trilogy quality wise.

They're things without names.

The valar waited bcuz morgoth was the most powerful and no one could defeat him but Eru iluvitar!

Why did the Valor forsake the Orcs.

First of all, and despite that essay in Morgoth''s Ring, I would say that the Valar were perhaps not a reliable source of information on the subject. Ar-Pharazon's army was trapped alive under a mountain until the end times, by Eru, not the Valar. Perhaps they would have achieved some form of immortality, but it may not have been a pleasant experience. Secondly, the initial plan of the Valar, was to prepare a home for both children in Middle-Earth, were they would live side-by-side. It wasn't until after Melkor's destruction of the lamps they retreated to Valinor and decided to create a safe haven for elves there, while leaving men to untold suffering in ME. Any clear cut truth on the subject remains hazy. The only thing we can say for sure is that the Ainur sucked at their job.

Most likely Gandalf was still paying off his ring and it might not have fitted Saruman's finger. You have to think practically about these things.

I think they are dark thoughts of Eru Iluvatar. Before he thought of the good and pure music, he must have wondered what could happen if notes he didn't like were in there and he must have created them to know and then cast them beyond the Timeless Halls when he created the Valar and Maiar and once Arda was made he cast them under where the Misty Mountains would be and placed Tom Bombadil in Arda for if they ever got out! Tom does not leave his land because so far he has no reason to. Maybe after the final battle at the end of Arda and after the reforming and purifying of Arda Tom and Goldenberry might finally either return to the Timeless Halls or go to Valinor.

Okay, but why do the Valar hate men?

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This isint speculation? This is in the books isint it? Well reguardless, if merry wasent there the witch king would live

It was a 155 years or older community, and no pets

Gold is ~$2400 per troy ounce ... it would be precious to anyone

Three Elves at helm's deep was plenty! The majority of orc deaths were at the 'hands' of the hourns, there was no need to diversify from humanity for the demise of the second of two towers challenge to men. Ellahan, Ellrohir & legolas, are a massive investment from the Eldar, at Helm's deep & the paths of the dead. The obvious pc preferences must be cultural appropriation! Cannon matters not, prostitute the story & corrupt the message🙄🙄🙄

They (valar) are too a being with pride and bias of having immortality and power to create other than a life, same as human with desires Well they are way too proud to be entrusted with responsibilities laid by Eru himself

it gets very confussing if you talk about tolkins writing. I just wanna know the end idea not every idea he had for orcs.

I love Strategie , war is sad but also interessting 🔥. Thanks for the Video 🙏

I will only quote from Tolkien's works. In the Silmarilion, it is said when Men awoke, the Valar did not know this. Morgoth gound the place that Man awoke, and sent his servants to spread roumor and fear into the hearts of Men. This seed would spread even to the Edain. In the Second Age, when some of the Edain went to Numenor. Alas, the works of Morgoth do ever fester, and the Dunedain began to become unsettled by their mortality and the Ban of the Valar. This led to Numenor's down fall.

Maybe he couldn't find earrings to match

Artificial Intelligence is the secret in the box

It is a plot anomaly, similar to "Mount Doom? No problem, I will just ask my friends the Eagles......" Tolkien was good, but ultimately he was writing fiction.

They had to get their hair right first

How Frodo lived there

You don’t seem to know much about the witch king. Or the history of angmar. The witch king was a sorcerer before becoming a nazgul. And unlike the other kings of men, he fought sauron before ever accepting his ring. And brutally subjugated mordors forces to the point of saurons nigh surrender. Sauron had to switch his tactics to tempting the witch king a sorcerer with immortality, and a rank above the other 8 nazgul, even retaining his own will. He simply serves sauron faithfully he is not subjugated like the rest. Oh and he was reputed to be a sorcerer more powerful than maiar spirits. The same way early elves were capable of dispatchin balrogs.

Its a beautiful moment, so much is enriched here. Her gift endorses the hope that the fellowship so desperately needs. Of all the gifts presented, Galadriel's hair may have been the mightiest. She could have denied the request (because its magic would have been of no use to folk simpler than Feanor in the task ahead), but she understood that whatever the dwarf proclaimed, it shall come to pass- a sort of foreshadowing. Legolas, and perhaps others, feels the blessing, and despair takes the back seat for the time being. Three hairs for a dwarf's word is a good trade:)

If Only They had the Blackstone Legion😂

Gondor painted its Black Stone Gate White😂

Despite the difference between Sauron and Morgoth, it is not great. Morgoth's goal was to literally possess everything, to the point that he called himself the King of Arda and destroyed everyone who opposed him. He only wanted to create the world according to his mood and desire,,. As for Sauron, in the beginning, like Mairon, he loved order and saw that his goal would be achieved with Morgoth, but it was greatly corrupted to the point that he did not differ from Morgoth’s mentality in ruling by force and even control as well as destruction. Sauron destroyed what was destroyed just like his master, and Sauron wanted to enslave the peoples of Middle-earth and make them They served him and even declared himself king as well. We also saw a glimpse of Sauron's rule of Middle-earth in the Mirror of Galadriel, and Sauron began a kind of religion to worship Morgoth in the hope that the his master would return. Sauron's approach followed the path of Morgoth, and Sauron's will ended up with Morgoth's will in the end. The goal is the same, but the methods differ in the end

And how many people suffered and died for this perfect timing?

My guess is that Earnur was turned into one of the Ringwraiths.